Righty my concepts all fin. Decided i would post it all in one go rather than create a new post everytime i put pencil t paper. Didnt really spend ages on this.

My first drawing didnt really know what i was doing and just did the first thing that came into my head after reading the brief.

And there we go....I'm still not sure about the tie...we may loose that in modelling....infact we'll probably loose that in modelling.
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